Est wrote:why not do a slow floor and get 120k exp? the same xp/h just not doing pressy runs that often..

because we don't need xp? >_>

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(decided to reset it since Jagex made that name change bs stuff.)

yeah because you just love doing pressy runs ? :>

Collecting resources, killing monsters, etc are xp waste (for nonsuicide folk), the only thing that really matters is the time the dungeon takes, the amount of bonus room % you get (ideally, you want this to be 11%+ from 13%) and the amount of deaths you obtain if you're not suiciding

Kun wrote:Collecting resources, killing monsters, etc are xp waste (for nonsuicide folk), the only thing that really matters is the time the dungeon takes, the amount of bonus room % you get (ideally, you want this to be 11%+ from 13%) and the amount of deaths you obtain if you're not suiciding

Time the dungeon takes for you = 15 minutes.
Xp you get = 25k

Therefore 100k/hour, give and take. Doing a normal floor, collecting resources, not running yourself shitless = ~45 minutes, ~90k exp, am I right? so doing normal floors would actually be better exp/hour and you'd have to do less prestige runs. Profit?

That's only if you die 7 times. I've done a 32min dungeon and gotten 115k from it. So that's about 200k or so an hr if I found a team straight away.

Est wrote:

Kun wrote:Collecting resources, killing monsters, etc are xp waste (for nonsuicide folk), the only thing that really matters is the time the dungeon takes, the amount of bonus room % you get (ideally, you want this to be 11%+ from 13%) and the amount of deaths you obtain if you're not suiciding

Time the dungeon takes for you = 15 minutes.
Xp you get = 25k

Therefore 100k/hour, give and take. Doing a normal floor, collecting resources, not running yourself shitless = ~45 minutes, ~90k exp, am I right? so doing normal floors would actually be better exp/hour and you'd have to do less prestige runs. Profit?

Both me and Kun just said it's not about the xp.. It's 100% about the time. Also doing stuff like this makes you a better keyer over time.

and I can do 20-22 min nonsuiciding floors.

Vanilla990 wrote:That's only if you die 7 times. I've done a 32min dungeon and gotten 115k from it. So that's about 200k or so an hr if I found a team straight away.

Looking at the Sheriff's pictures on his goal thread - he hasn't gotten over 28k exp in a floor so he wouldn't manage over 120k/hour.

Owen wrote:Both me and Kun just said it's not about the xp.. It's 100% about the time. Also doing stuff like this makes you a better keyer over time.

So the only reason you do dungeoneering is to see how fast you can finish one?

Owen wrote:and I can do 20-22 min nonsuiciding floors.

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If you're going to train something like Dungeoneering you mightaswell make it a bit interesting. Some people prefer the whole 'under pressure' scenario as well.
I'm not sure what you have against their methods, but whatever they are, they appear to be working for them.

Est wrote:

Kun wrote:Collecting resources, killing monsters, etc are xp waste (for nonsuicide folk), the only thing that really matters is the time the dungeon takes, the amount of bonus room % you get (ideally, you want this to be 11%+ from 13%) and the amount of deaths you obtain if you're not suiciding

Time the dungeon takes for you = 15 minutes.
Xp you get = 25k

Therefore 100k/hour, give and take. Doing a normal floor, collecting resources, not running yourself shitless = ~45 minutes, ~90k exp, am I right? so doing normal floors would actually be better exp/hour and you'd have to do less prestige runs. Profit?

15 minute dungeons, with 0 prestige and dying 7+ times?
I'm fine with 25K experience, rofl.

I'm suiciding, again, so I'm only in it for the speed, which is the only thing that concerns the leecher along with % of bonus rooms. Whether or not *I* get exp doesn't really matter, especially when you've already hit the max level for skill (120, in this case).

@Est: Dungeons are only done for speed?
Yeah, pretty much. For me, at least.

Kun wrote:
15 minute dungeons, with 0 prestige and dying 7+ times?
I'm fine with 25K experience, rofl.

I'm suiciding, again, so I'm only in it for the speed, which is the only thing that concerns the leecher along with % of bonus rooms. Whether or not *I* get exp doesn't really matter, especially when you've already hit the max level for skill (120, in this case).

@Est: Dungeons are only done for speed?
Yeah, pretty much. For me, at least.

That's all I asked. no need to be rude.

Merely responding to already rude comments.

I think what you're confused about is that, because we don't care about experience (nor tokens), our prestige doesn't need to be reset, and we can die as many time as allowed (15). This is all for the sake of the dungeon's speed.

I'd understand your stance if *everyone* in the dungeon was suiciding as that would be horrible experience rates for those that do decide to, but in this case and in more general cases, the keyer suicides because it simply guarantees a faster dungeon, which is what the leecher/team wants, a fast dungeon.

So, in that screenshot I posted on the last page, while I got 25k experience at 0 prestige and 7 deaths, other members would've gotten significantly more, provided that they've prestiged and haven't died more than one or two times.

If this doesn't clear it up, I'm not sure what will.

where be the shots of screens?

Lost in a sea of dungeonfateering discussion.

Yeah I don't even know what's going on.
So to keep this thread on topic again.
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What boss was it? f60 is almost always kalger. >_>

Out of interest, why don't you reset your prestige?

Owen wrote:What boss was it? f60 is almost always kalger. >_>

Hope Devourer

Penguin414 wrote:Out of interest, why don't you reset your prestige?

Because then I'd have to rush floors 1-29. :u
Then again, I could just reset and just dg with 30 prestige the entire time.

This made me lol.
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lol

Oh, had to edit your post to see the link. I hate Tinypic's shit these days.

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Fastest dg times
gud stuf

I don't even know what I'm reading Kun